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    “Some UK brands are definitely tired,” Koto’s James Greenfield on the state of branding today

    onlyplanz_80y6mtBy onlyplanz_80y6mtSeptember 20, 2025No Comments8 Mins Read
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    James Greenfield on stage at Paradigms 2025
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    Earlier this week, I noticed Koto’s CEO and co-founder James Greenfield speak on the inspiring (and very popular!) Paradigms convention in Morocco. His jam-packed speak lined why he is fallen out of affection with what was his favorite model: Nike, the significance of design self-discipline and why manufacturers and businesses have to assume long run when crafting a rebrand.I caught up with him after his speak to debate copying within the artistic world, Koto’s latest refresh of Amazon and the state of a number of large manufacturers within the UK (spoiler alert: a few of them aren’t trying good).

    (Picture credit score: Amazon/Koto)How do you cease your work being copied?Relies upon what house you are in, however the basic reply to that, I believe, is to attempt to create the work in such a manner that if another person copies you, it is extremely apparent that they’ve copied you. And so subsequently it has a signature. The instance I used [in my talk] was the Nike and the On web sites. I do not assume they’ll argue they’re copying them as a result of each of them are simply fairly easy, and so use a mode that is very properly established. And so I believe they have not created an asset that was ‘uncopyable’ and so they in all probability – in the event that they have been trustworthy with themselves – would know that after they put that out.

    (Picture credit score: Name of Responsibility)What do you assume you’ve got created that’s ‘uncopyable’? Typically folks deliberately attempt to copy different folks, however do not do it deliberately. It is simply extra round aspiration, possibly, or inspiration. I believe one thing like Airbnb’s obtained a signature to it and other people have tried to repeat it, however I believe it is apparent if you see the copy. I believe you possibly can really feel that. However that is additionally talking 12 years later versus extra not too long ago. I believe extra not too long ago after we take into consideration another issues that we have carried out, it is about making an attempt to be the most effective in that class. With Name of Responsibility, somebody might copy the typeface, but it surely’s not Name of Responsibility – we have been fortunate sufficient to work with the main recreation, and we created belongings that basically celebrated that and constructed that round that. I believe folks will at all times naturally consider the market chief.

    (Picture credit score: Amazon/Koto)Your Amazon refresh triggered fairly a stir earlier within the 12 months. Do you assume that we’re coming into a brand new period of tweaking a model versus overhauling it? I believe each are nonetheless legitimate. I believe it actually relies upon upon numerous components. Like one, how that model’s doing. We undoubtedly have some UK manufacturers which might be drained and I believe whether or not you are fascinated by manufacturers like O2 or Sky, I really feel like they have not modified and so they have not moved with the occasions. And I believe prospects can really feel that. Now, if I used to be given the transient to cope with both of these proper now, I might revolutionise them as a result of I really feel like they want it… But when I used to be given one thing, for example, just like the Physique Store or one other excessive road iconic model, I’d in all probability evolve it as a result of I nonetheless assume it is obtained goodwill and it is obtained good heritage and it is good, and so I actually assume it relies upon upon what the model is. I believe one of many issues we’ actually dangerous with within the UK for the time being is legacy manufacturers which might be legacy manufacturers for no different cause however familiarity. So Direct Line has a phone on wheels as its emblem, when 50 per cent of their prospects have by no means used that sort of phone. Carphone Warehouse known as Carphone Warehouse after I would say 70% of its prospects do not even know what a automotive cellphone is.There’s a lack of self-discipline there to essentially perceive how your manufacturers exist in a market. And so to me, it actually simply relies upon how crucial these parts are for it to achieve success transferring ahead.

    (Picture credit score: Amazon/Koto)What did you be taught from the Amazon refresh?The primary factor I discovered from the Amazon refresh is that there are actually fascinating breaks inside the Amazon model, the place folks shall be heavy shoppers of 1 bit, however will not think about one other bit. And so subsequently we had extra work to do on that than I possibly anticipated on the way in which in. If you wish to attempt to get somebody to be a web-based pharmacy buyer, that is a extremely troublesome factor in comparison with getting them to open Prime and watch some content material. And I believe I actually underestimated the distinction of these sorts of experiences to folks.

    (Picture credit score: Amazon/Koto)Do you assume that your work has carried out sufficient to bridge the hole?It’s the start. I believe it wants heavy storytelling, it wants to know the digital expertise. I believe it wants to know how folks have completely different relationships with the model.As a UK client, I take into consideration brown packing containers, however half the world do not ever get brown packing containers from Amazon. And so it is very simple to place your individual expertise of Amazon on high of the model as a complete. You want that type of nuance market by market and possibly fairly refined storytelling to assist perceive how folks navigate these manufacturers and perceive them. What do you assume that we will be taught from Apple’s branding success?I believe they’ve actually been disciplined about design being on the centre of every part that they do and have proved that it offers immense worth. You would argue that their design is much less spectacular as we speak, however they did such an excellent job of it sooner or later in time that each one of us are simply locked into this concept of it [being] a design firm. And that’s simply distinctive. I do not assume there’s anybody else that is ever a lot to realize it fairly to that degree. Perhaps Ferrari, however that is a distinct segment product that 99.9% of the inhabitants can by no means afford and solely aspires to. In order that’s in all probability the one different model that I might consider in that market.

    (Picture credit score: Paradigms)What recommendation would you give to younger creatives?It is not simply what issues seem like. It is concerning the why behind them, how they sit within the context. It’s important to be broadly understanding of that, [you have to] perceive an organization’s motives, you must perceive tradition, you must perceive the information surroundings, the enterprise surroundings. So many issues are required, and I believe too many creatives simply go, ‘I need to be artistic’, which is nice. It is pretty factor, however creativity exists in context.

    (Picture credit score: Koto/De-extinction)What’s a artistic danger that you’ve got taken? I believe we’re not afraid to make manufacturers that’ve obtained perspective. Some folks attempt to make a model that is just like the imply of one thing, so it is like instantly within the center. Whereas truly, I believe you must begin from someplace after which you possibly can construct into that mass place. Pushing manufacturers to a extra edgier house might be a little bit of a danger at occasions as a result of it might work, it might fail. We did a model not too long ago for a patching firm for De-extinction. And it is about recyclable compostable packaging. And we mainly talked to it about dinosaurs being the extinct. That appears a fairly on the market place for a packaging firm.However our place was, you actually need to make a flamable packaging system memorable. In any other case it is simply one in all many. And so subsequently should you give it a model that is obtained lbuckets of perspective and it is frankly fairly on the market. Some individuals are going to like it. Some individuals are going to like it. Whereas should you make a medium model, nobody’s going to like it and a few folks simply assume it is okay.

    (Picture credit score: Koto/De-extinction)If you happen to needed to sum up the design sphere, what would you say? By no means been stronger. Uncover extra about Koto and Paradigms.

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